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she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it comes to transatlantic friendship and partnership. and to have someone on the other side of the atlantic who is not willing to communicate at the moment when you need to talk to each other. such things can be resolved. someone who is not willing to send someone over to germany to explain what is happening or to paris or to other places but to wait up until the moment german delegation comes to washington are tiny diplomatic steps that would be helpful installed at the right place. >> pleasure to have you on. thank you so much. >> great to
she defended the nsa program. and then to learn two or three months later that she personally was tapped and then to learn that actually the american president knew about it already in summer, that's one of the moments which i would consider being face losing relevance. >> you know angela merkel well. you served as her defense minister. how angry do you think she is? >> she is, i think, really disappointed. and she is very analytical person but she shows lots of emotions when it...
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one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content. let me be clear. under 215 the nsa cannot listen to anyone's phonecalls. what section 215 does is allow the government to connect the dots. these dots could have been connected to prevent 9/11 and are necessary to prevent the next attack. we could have determined one of the 9/11 attackers for hijackers was in san diego and made a call to an al qaeda number in yemen. i shudder to think what connections will be missed if the program were completely eliminated. keep in mind law enforcement obtains and analyzes these types of records every day to stop organized crime and keep drugs out. we don't wan
one key fact we need to keep in mind is that nsa's focus is on foreign threats under fisa nsa does not target target americans in the u.s. and does not target americans anywhere else without a court order. they are to fisa authorities that have been highlighted in the the press prefers the business records provision known as section 215 which allows the government to legally correct what is called metadata a phone number and length of call, not content. no names, no commerce asians, no content....
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this is what was violated by nsa activities. washington was playing by the laws of the jungle but inside europe's post-modern system. partly this is because the distinction is not easy to maintain. what if you look for terrorists within europe. that is people who still play by the laws of the jungle or even worse. america as a global power is operating all over the world trying to tackle some of the nastiest threats out there. perhaps it doesn't have the luxury to retreat to a garden and renounce nasty tactics. if it did, it's not likely that china, russia, al qaeda would follow suit. precisely because washington has to get its hands dirty, it should be smart about this. you don't stop terrorists in europe by listening in on angela merkel's cell phone. the rewards of spying on friendly heads of government are probably outweighed by the risks. and most troubling, it's not clear that many of these specific activities were clearly thought through and directed by the white house. nor do they appear to have been vetted by congress. i
this is what was violated by nsa activities. washington was playing by the laws of the jungle but inside europe's post-modern system. partly this is because the distinction is not easy to maintain. what if you look for terrorists within europe. that is people who still play by the laws of the jungle or even worse. america as a global power is operating all over the world trying to tackle some of the nastiest threats out there. perhaps it doesn't have the luxury to retreat to a garden and...
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nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of america i will and others. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. thanks. congressman adam schiff of california sits on the house intelligence committee and stepped out of today's meeting to speak to us live from capitol hill. thanks for joining us. quickly, james clapper was also asked if our allies are guilty of the same sort of thing. here is what he said. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time, any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, intelligence se
nsa has advantages. but one of the points that mike rogers made in this hearing, and clapper and alexander, in effect, everyone's hands are dirty. they say, yes, we are the target of foreign intelligence operations but also say that we go after not only our allies but -- the leaders of our allies. used the term leadership intentions are both a reasonable and acceptable and valuable target for american intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of...
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now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should be doing. >> reporter: senior administration officials tell cnn president obama did not know about the nsa surveillance of merkel and other allies until earlier this year. when he found out he ordered a stop to some of the programs. the democratic chairman of the senate intelligence community dianne feinstein usually an ally of the white house says that is not good enough and wants a total review of all u.s. intelligence programs. here is one explanation former vice president cheney gave cnn's jake tapper. >> we are vulnerable as was shown on 9/11. you ne
now he is ordering a full review of the nsa surveillance operations and the foreign relations fallout. here is more from our chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. >> reporter: president obama would not confirm the nsa was spying on the phone calls of u.s. allies like germany's chancellor angela merkel. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose and that is to make sure that the american people are safe. i'm making a review to make sure what they are...
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does changes in the nsa and the spying, will that change that or not? >>> rapper jay z say he is being unfairly criticized. two people were detained by police when they bought expensive things. hundreds have taken to twitter demanding jay z end his partnership with barneys. this puts jay z in a rather awkward position. he's about to launch a collection of clothing, jewelry. the money from the deal is going to a charity. it's not like he's keeping it for himself. the question is, will sticking with barneys hurt his brand as a rapper? the truth is probably not. he and his wife beyonce have had a stream of other income. jay z is worth $500 million. and when you add that to his wife, they have well over a billion dollars. which brings me to tonight's number. 3.6 million. according to the luxury institute. that is the average worth of a barney's shopper. they are incredibly wealthy. and even though he may not like probably not a boycott strong enough for him to change. >>> is the site of the winter games too dangerous? >>> and new details in the case of a bo
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all bought art in germany wants edward snow to members of the german government of trying to get the nsa whistleblower to testify. an investigation against us spying activities from this new development ahead. on capitol hill a group of senators claim they are pushing legislation to deal with concerns over nsa surveillance. but critics say their efforts fall short. you can actually make things worse. putting more coming up and in chicago the us is biggest jail is also its biggest mental health facility. over thirty the prison's inmates have mental illness. how did this happen. read more on that later the show a new. it's friday november first five mins in washington dc and sam sexton you're watching our two. then we begin with breaking news out of los angeles international airport for around nine thirty this morning a gunman walked in the terminal three at the airport pulled out his soul rifle and opened fire and continued firing his gun through the security screening screening era area making it fairly far into the airport before he came under fire from long portion officials and was ta
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and italian magazine called panorama reports the nsa may have spied on the pope. and some cardinals. sources at the magazine have been told the nsa eavesdropped on vatican phone calls before the conclave, that top secret meeting of cardinals. >> #01: folks. i am a devout catholic but i believe the nsa must spy on the vatican, they are tapping the direct line to god. and as i have pointed out, this guy has got a beard, spent a lot of time in the middle east and i keep hearing he has got some "plan" that for some reason always involves your grandpa dying. but sadly, sadly, there are misguided critics out there who value something more than total operational and situational awareness. let's go down. >> utterly out of control. >> there has to be a balance between privacy and security. >> the united states has simply got the balance wrong. too much invasion of privacy in the pursuit of security. >> #01:. >> come on what is the big deal about a government invasion of privacy, at this point we have invaded everywhere else. thankfully, there is a way to keep the nsa spyin
and italian magazine called panorama reports the nsa may have spied on the pope. and some cardinals. sources at the magazine have been told the nsa eavesdropped on vatican phone calls before the conclave, that top secret meeting of cardinals. >> #01: folks. i am a devout catholic but i believe the nsa must spy on the vatican, they are tapping the direct line to god. and as i have pointed out, this guy has got a beard, spent a lot of time in the middle east and i keep hearing he has got...
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finally someone in the administration defense nsa spying. their defense was clear, and aggressive. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america our intelligence services our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they continue to try. it is the great members in the intelligence community, our military, our law enforcement that have stood up and said, this is our job. >> defending themselves with passion and conviction, which up to this point we hadn't seen much of in terms of defense. jim sciutto closely watched the entire hearing today. jim, what were the revelations at the hearing? >> reporter: you got the sense as you say, erin, they were just waiting to go have the chance to push back like this. they pushed back very strong here. first on spying both clapper and alexander saying that our allies spy on us, including on our leaders, that in fact the intelligence services
finally someone in the administration defense nsa spying. their defense was clear, and aggressive. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america our intelligence services our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they continue to try. it is the great members in the intelligence community, our military, our...
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everything that nsa does in term of query is auditable. we think it's an important protection we have in place and apply as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. concern was recently raised to me about the absence of the privacy officer of nsa. could you tell me me two things. how soon do you think you'll have one? what is the process for appointing one? what would the person's role be in programs like the one we're discussing? >> today we have a -- a decision was need put the position together in a role that would be a direct report to the director. this was announced over the summer. and proceeding with the hiring process. if i recall correctly. i think the request for rÉsume and interest closes in the first week of november. it's been publicly advertised. from that point forward we proceed expeditiously with a hiring process. one thing i would note not only are the functions we think important. today work closely with the chief civil liberty and privacy officer. i think the focused attention that such a person could bring at the nsa as pro
everything that nsa does in term of query is auditable. we think it's an important protection we have in place and apply as well. >> thank you. >> thank you. concern was recently raised to me about the absence of the privacy officer of nsa. could you tell me me two things. how soon do you think you'll have one? what is the process for appointing one? what would the person's role be in programs like the one we're discussing? >> today we have a -- a decision was need put the...
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spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the vociferous criticism that officials have leveled at the snowden leaks and at him and the press for publishing them, it is not all about terrorism. he keeps saying loorks, they want us to believe that everything that's being leaked is just about life and death terrorism. but it's not. there are a lot of other revelations, a lot of revelations about economic and commercial and industrial espionage. there are a lot of revelations obviously which started the firestorm of protests around the world. about spying and collecting metadata from ordinary citizens. that is what really drives glen green wald r
spying allegations stemmed from leaks made by former nsa contractor edward snowden. he describes himself as a whistleblower, but others say he's a traitor. >> christiane amanpour has spoken with the journalist who worked closely with edward snowden to expose these secrets and joins you now from london. you had that interview with glenn greenwald. what struck you most about him, he is one determined man on a bit of a mission really. >> he continues to insist that despite the...
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about 80% of the work that the nsa does is outside the u.s. and guidelines that be do you or your predecessors put in place. are you looking at whether those guidelines provide any protection for national -- international -- foreign or are you just rummaging through their communications yucca >> -- their communications? >> we are in the process of making sure that we are respecting an appropriate balance between keeping the american people safe and our allies say. we are in conversations with our partners in europe and other parts of the world to make sure that we strike that appropriate balance. there are some fundamental questions that i think we have to ask ourselves, simply because we can do certain things does not necessarily mean we should do those things. the chiefo be question that must be resolved. what is the cost and the benefit? what are the benefits we are receiving? what are the protections we are , against the privacy that we necessarily have to give up. that review is underway. it is a thorough review. the president is fully ga
about 80% of the work that the nsa does is outside the u.s. and guidelines that be do you or your predecessors put in place. are you looking at whether those guidelines provide any protection for national -- international -- foreign or are you just rummaging through their communications yucca >> -- their communications? >> we are in the process of making sure that we are respecting an appropriate balance between keeping the american people safe and our allies say. we are in...
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the nsa has a worldwide responsibility. the nsa provides information to the fbi which the fbi can then follow up on if they have some indication there may be a terrorist plot under way in the united states, they would give that information to the fbi. the fbi would thin pursue it and see if there's something really there or not there. but they work closely together. one of the big problems before 9/11 was there wasn't enough coordination between the left-hand of the u.s. government and the right hand of the u.s. government. after 9/11 they did implement much greater coordination. as a result the nsa, the cia, other law enforcement, whether military and, of course, the fbi, department of homeland security, they worked much more closely together and there's a director of national intelligence hogs now oversees all 16 different u.s. intelligence agencies. as a result, they're supposedly do things a lot more coordinated and a lot better way. >> would he have, thanks so much. and to remind the viewers we'll bring you the preside
the nsa has a worldwide responsibility. the nsa provides information to the fbi which the fbi can then follow up on if they have some indication there may be a terrorist plot under way in the united states, they would give that information to the fbi. the fbi would thin pursue it and see if there's something really there or not there. but they work closely together. one of the big problems before 9/11 was there wasn't enough coordination between the left-hand of the u.s. government and the...
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why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the way, we listen to her phone conversations on her cell phone, you should know this. >> i talked to people on both sides of this. some say if he didn't know, he should have known. he should just have assumed it. others say well, this is the way the nsa operates and you need to pierce that and you need to change the system, because just because as jay carney said today, just because they can gather all this information doesn't mean that they should gather all this information. that's why it's clear the president is having a review in the wake of the edward snowden disclosures but
why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the...
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right now this is a very nasty moment in our relations with europe because of the nsa spying flap. what can you do and how uncomfortable is it to be with our friends and allies who frankly are really angry at the u.s. for eavesdropping on angela merkel and other leaders. >> well, people are angry as you say, but they also understand it is important that iran not get a nuclear weapon. this is really at the top of president obama's inbox. this is the top of prime minister cameron and the president's inbox, top of the inbox for president putin and head of china as well, the other p5 plus 1 partner as well as chancellor merkel. we are focused on what the objective here is stop iran from having a nuclear weapon. we had the last round of p5 plus 1 negotiations during the government shutdown here in washington which didn't make it particularly easy either. indeed because we are so focused on peace and security for the world community, it trumps virtually everything else. >> and what about the syrian situation and iran's involvement in syria rearming the assad regime, aren't those other is
right now this is a very nasty moment in our relations with europe because of the nsa spying flap. what can you do and how uncomfortable is it to be with our friends and allies who frankly are really angry at the u.s. for eavesdropping on angela merkel and other leaders. >> well, people are angry as you say, but they also understand it is important that iran not get a nuclear weapon. this is really at the top of president obama's inbox. this is the top of prime minister cameron and the...
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to nsa partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information we collect it on european citizens. it represents information that collected nato allies in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. i understand you correctly, this information was collected external to the country of which it was reported in defense of operations in which nato participates. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> as you study the networks of aboutrld -- let's talk the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services to use networks you would find in any nation in the european union? >> absolutely. >> how about russian intelligence services? networksy use european inside the european union? >> yes. >> how about al qaeda? could they use networks found in the european union to plan execution of operations? >> they could absolutely. it be in the purview of the national security agency to try to prevent those activities if it was targeted at the united states or o
to nsa partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information we collect it on european citizens. it represents information that collected nato allies in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. i understand you correctly, this information was collected external to the country of which it was reported in defense of operations in which nato participates. is that correct? >> that is correct. >> as you study the networks of aboutrld -- let's talk the european...
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was the nsa, indeed, doing this without letting people know? and that's a big question to me. >> one of the things we were talking about is how remarkable it would be that edward snowden might have known about this and barack obama didn't. then the other thing that strikes me is, you know, obviously i under that these programs are very controversial but the amount of controversy over this program is a little bit higher it seems than when we found out they were collecting bulk data on regular citizens. diane feinstein the chairman of the senate intelligence committee is outraged over this disclosure but fine with the other ones. >> what's worse to express, mike barnacle, that i think it's many world leaders that have this happen to them not just angela merkel and i wonder if that should have come out or if that creates more of a firestorm. but, again, it's not george w. bush sitting there with his head phones on listening to angela merkel's conversations, or president obama, it's very different. mike? >> but, mike, if the president knows, if he'
was the nsa, indeed, doing this without letting people know? and that's a big question to me. >> one of the things we were talking about is how remarkable it would be that edward snowden might have known about this and barack obama didn't. then the other thing that strikes me is, you know, obviously i under that these programs are very controversial but the amount of controversy over this program is a little bit higher it seems than when we found out they were collecting bulk data on...
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. >> but egypt has been one nation with strained relations with our country, from the reporting nsa spying on world leaders that has outraged them, to unhappiness with our policy over egypt. it seems a growing list of nations angry at america. what happened? >> john bolton is a fox news contributor, former u.s. ambassador to the nations, and he joins us from jerusalem this morning. good morning. >> good morning, eric. how are you? >> egypt suspended millions of dollars in aid. it seems in doing so, washington has isolated the islamists and the military. what happened? >> there's almost no one in egypt today who will stand up and defend the united states, the administration's position over the last two years has varied like a metronome, and so bad is it that kerry had to arrive in cairo under the same procedures that are used when he would visit a war zone like afghanistan. the first time an american secretary of state has faced that. with the trial, as you mentioned, of former president mohamed morsi about to begin tomorrow, the risk of instability in egypt remains very high. >> woucould t
. >> but egypt has been one nation with strained relations with our country, from the reporting nsa spying on world leaders that has outraged them, to unhappiness with our policy over egypt. it seems a growing list of nations angry at america. what happened? >> john bolton is a fox news contributor, former u.s. ambassador to the nations, and he joins us from jerusalem this morning. good morning. >> good morning, eric. how are you? >> egypt suspended millions of dollars...
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if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address civil liberties and privacy issues that you're not doing? >> from my perspective, no. one of the things, and i was just going to have chris add one element if i could on here to your question. >> we'd actually just described a note to ourselves, but at nsa, the annual dollars we spend on this, the 30 million, and we have 300 full-time e qif lance, but what i scribed on the note is it's everybody's job. everyone has a role to play in compliance. we bring our employees in on their first day whether military or civilian, we give them all the oath of office, tell them it's to the constitution, the whole
if you just take the 300 compliance officers of nsa alone, let alone the rest of the apparatus of nsa that is devoted to oversight, my staff, dod's staff, the department of justice, the fisa court, the civil liberties and privacy officers, igs, and the amount of time they spend, it is very costly program in terms of both manpower and dollars. i just don't have a figure. >> one last comment, reflection, is there anything either one of you can think of within your authority to do to address...
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the nsa situation has been happening over a very long time. the website issues happened over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out. the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not to let the country go into default. >> ah. >> there is no ah, come on, ross. >> sorry. >> but they're kind of separate things. i think you're right. you take your lumps, because they do happen at the same time. and people will draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think that they should. >> does it raise the broader question, though, charles, that the president is out of touch? >> that is what i was trying to get at. i just don't get that sense, but i do believe that whenever there is something that could be embarrassing, you know, your underlings have a responsibility to make sure you're covered and to make sure you understand things are happening and that you're in the loop. that is a problem in these particular cases, there is no getting around that. it is an embarrassment. they happened to
the nsa situation has been happening over a very long time. the website issues happened over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out. the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not to let the country go into default. >> ah. >> there is no ah, come on, ross. >> sorry. >> but they're kind of separate things. i think you're right. you take your lumps, because they do happen at the same time. and people will draw a...
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>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state wants this, department of state wants to know this. or somebody else wants to know that. priorities are ranked. as i understand it these are the priorities. one, terrorism. two, support of our military abroad. three, nuclear counter proliferation. four, hard targets. and now cyber. and those are the main areas. so essentially the nsa is told to do certain things and it does it. what i think we need to do, we work very well with the house committee and leadership, mike rogers and congressman rupersberger is review of the intelligence framework o
>> well, let me say something about the nsa. i believe the nsa is filled with good patriotic people who want to do the right thing. they follow the orders they're given. the administration controls intelligence. the national intelligence framework is put together by the administration. it begins with the director of national intelligence, it goes to the white house, it's the president, it's the nsc the cabinet and then the framework is formed. now, what happens is, people add to it, state...
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important nsa is an agency. it seems they have gone beyond what anyone suspected they could be doing. i do not think their collection is not over her, but logged. that seems to be going beyond what is necessary. if they have a bad guy, they can put in for a warrant. they will get a warrant in almost every case to wiretap that person. that i not need to know was talking to my brother or my aunt on the phone. -- if they suspect you or they suspect me, they can get a warrant and they can wiretap her phone. they do not need to wiretap every phone in the world. it is mind-boggling to think about the amount of data that is. several comments were made by keith alexander and he made the case that what they do helps agencies like the fbi. i want to show you and get your response. [video clip] >> we are only part of the intelligence agency that does that. the fbi is a tremendous partner in the homeland. they do great work. our job is to give them the information we see coming from overseas into the united states. tremendo
important nsa is an agency. it seems they have gone beyond what anyone suspected they could be doing. i do not think their collection is not over her, but logged. that seems to be going beyond what is necessary. if they have a bad guy, they can put in for a warrant. they will get a warrant in almost every case to wiretap that person. that i not need to know was talking to my brother or my aunt on the phone. -- if they suspect you or they suspect me, they can get a warrant and they can wiretap...
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within the nsa programs we are seeing, a lot of checks have proven ineffective. traditionally, the fourth amendment sets up a warrant requirement. no warrant shall issue but on probable cause. the shift to a more universal collection mechanism requires the bypassing of that. whether that is true, the oak warrants issued -- bulk warrants issued through fisa courts or the data gathered outside any kind of warrant. but that model seems to be and in effect of way of overseeing ineffective way of overseeing. what is in effect it is the secrecy. one of the things that is stunning about the revelations and the scope of the programs is how far they have gone without any public discussion. also, in the context of the fisa courts, we have seen fisa judges saying, we are not the most effective check on this. we cannot evaluate the information resented to us in one-sided situations in a one- sided preceding where there is no adversary. he cannot supervise what is being done with our orders, what is being acted on, because we are just a court. the secrecy and adversarial natu
within the nsa programs we are seeing, a lot of checks have proven ineffective. traditionally, the fourth amendment sets up a warrant requirement. no warrant shall issue but on probable cause. the shift to a more universal collection mechanism requires the bypassing of that. whether that is true, the oak warrants issued -- bulk warrants issued through fisa courts or the data gathered outside any kind of warrant. but that model seems to be and in effect of way of overseeing ineffective way of...
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nsa apparently bugging her phone calls, part of a secret program monitoring dozens of world leaders. the white house says president obama was unaware of the program for nearly five years until it was uncovered over the summer during an internal review by the administration. the nsa denies a report that the president was briefed years ago by the head of the agency releasing this statement. general alexander, he is the head of the nsa, did not discuss with president obama in 2010 an alleged foreign intelligence operation involving german chancellor angela merkel nor as he ever discussed alleged operations involving chancellor merkel. news reports, caming otherwise, are not true. so let's talk about it with nina easton, senior editor and washington columnist for "fortune" magazine and fox news contributor. joe trippi was howard dean's presidential campaign manager. he is a fox news contributor. nina, the question is, i guess, you know, if the president didn't know about this, when did he know about it? >> this is all a pretty astonishing question. so are according to news reports offici
nsa apparently bugging her phone calls, part of a secret program monitoring dozens of world leaders. the white house says president obama was unaware of the program for nearly five years until it was uncovered over the summer during an internal review by the administration. the nsa denies a report that the president was briefed years ago by the head of the agency releasing this statement. general alexander, he is the head of the nsa, did not discuss with president obama in 2010 an alleged...
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. >> the nsa denies reports president obama knew about and approved the spying on germany's chancellor. >> after months held hostage farc frees a u.s. marine. >> syria submits a plan for getting rid of its chemical weapons three days before the deadline. >> remembering rock pioneer lou reed. the former velvet underground died at the age of 71, today. [ ♪ theme ] >>> international uproar over reports the u.s. spied on germany's chancellor is not going away. there are claims president obama knew about the phone taps and approved them - the white house says it is not true. we are getting reports that the eavesdropping started in 2002, before angela merkel was elected. >> this morning senator jeanne shaheen called on the nsa to come clear on the surveillance program. >> i think the revelations from edward snowden, and secrets that are revealed are doing damage to our bilateral relationships with germany, mexico and other countries where the suggestion is that we've lisped in -- listened in. i think we have repair work to do and hard questions it ask of the nsa about what is happening in
. >> the nsa denies reports president obama knew about and approved the spying on germany's chancellor. >> after months held hostage farc frees a u.s. marine. >> syria submits a plan for getting rid of its chemical weapons three days before the deadline. >> remembering rock pioneer lou reed. the former velvet underground died at the age of 71, today. [ ♪ theme ] >>> international uproar over reports the u.s. spied on germany's chancellor is not going away....
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the whole nsa metadata issue is hard and fast. give you my views on it but nonetheless, i have not seen the pendulum swing too far yet. >> i have spoken to some officials, some off the record -- >> i don't think he's unstable. very friendly conversations, first of all. he's very direct, some of the about us ande said our people. i don't understand politics, by the way. why is he saying things that make it either on likely, less less likely,ikely, what's the politics? i don't get it. on the politician. forsee they say things public consumption -- i'm the politician. i know it's rare. once in a great while the politician will say something for the public that they don't exactly believe themselves or would say differently. why is he saying the things? the conversation i want to emphasize is that they are friendly, very direct. his first question was about the nsa. trying to put me on the defensive. i asked, why are you doing this to me? we tap everybody. we don't discriminate. [laughter] that's not quite true. we should move on to af
the whole nsa metadata issue is hard and fast. give you my views on it but nonetheless, i have not seen the pendulum swing too far yet. >> i have spoken to some officials, some off the record -- >> i don't think he's unstable. very friendly conversations, first of all. he's very direct, some of the about us ande said our people. i don't understand politics, by the way. why is he saying things that make it either on likely, less less likely,ikely, what's the politics? i don't get it....
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to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> and so let me just ask you this, as you study the networks of the world, and let's just talk about the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services military or otherwise to use networks that you would find in any nation states in the european union. >> . >> computer networks inside the european union for what they are up to. >> absolutely. >> whow about al quaida, could they use, is it possible for them to use the networks found in the european union to conduct planning operations or execution of operations? >> could. absolutely. >> and would bit in the purview of the national security agency to try to prevent those activities especially if it went through the european union and maybe even targeted at the united states o
to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> and so let me just ask you this, as you study the networks of the world, and let's just talk about the european union for a second, if i may. is it possible for chinese intelligence services military or otherwise to use networks that you...
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they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be with "the baltimoresun" and i wrote back in 1985 and can say i was not shocked about any of this, but i think perhaps one of the most interesting questions these documents raise is i refer to the agency as an omnivore. they're under pressure from policymakers, from the white house, see -- cia, dod to the state department to sort of the prepared to supply information on almost anything. inrisis breaks out tomorrow an unexpected place, and nsa is under heavy pressure to produce intelligence from that place. and that combined with a big- budget in secrecy has, i think, created what actually secretary of state
they were closely with the nsa that about one third of those documents are nsa documents. the guardian shared those 50,000 documents with us that "the new york times" and some of us have spent the last couple of months going through them. >> and talk about what most shock you by the documents you have gotten better from the national security agency. we have gone through some of the points. you begin with ban ki-moon last april. why don't you start there. >> i used to be...
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edward snowden, the man wanted for leaking nsa secrets has angered u.s. officials again. this time he is releasing now a manifesto calling out the u.s. and britain for their spying programs. his manifesto was published in a german magazine. and he writes, his actions have prompted debate and that the u.s. and britain are among the worst surveillance offenders. snowden is living now in moscow, under asylum from the russian government. that's where we pick up the story with diana magna, who is also gauging reaction from the germans. >> there's a growing chorus of voices in germany calling for edward snowden to be granted asylum there. there's talk also about a parliamentary investigation into the tapping of chancellor angela merkel's phone, where snowden will be called on to testify. he said he's willing to testify. but he'd have to be granted asylum. it's possible of course for him to provide testimony from russian soil, but that might go against the grounds for his asylum. president putin has made it quite clear that he's a free man, but he can do nothing more that will d
edward snowden, the man wanted for leaking nsa secrets has angered u.s. officials again. this time he is releasing now a manifesto calling out the u.s. and britain for their spying programs. his manifesto was published in a german magazine. and he writes, his actions have prompted debate and that the u.s. and britain are among the worst surveillance offenders. snowden is living now in moscow, under asylum from the russian government. that's where we pick up the story with diana magna, who is...
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and google and now the nsa is pushing back. plus dr. sanjay gupta was the last journalist to have an exclusive interview with kathleen sebelius. is her message about obama care better today than it was last week when he sat down with her? sanjay standing by to join us live. #%tia[ >>> new developments in the scandal over u.s. government spying. also new allegations the ns after the tapped in to yahoo! and google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.nd google communicati are used by hundreds of millions of people.the tapped in to yaho google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.apped in to yahoo! and g communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people. jim sciutto is working the story for us. the "washington post" reports the nsa infiltrated links to yahoo! and google, servers globally that the agency is using this practice to get around port approved process. you've been investigating. what have you found? >> the story in effect is that they have gone into the communica
and google and now the nsa is pushing back. plus dr. sanjay gupta was the last journalist to have an exclusive interview with kathleen sebelius. is her message about obama care better today than it was last week when he sat down with her? sanjay standing by to join us live. #%tia[ >>> new developments in the scandal over u.s. government spying. also new allegations the ns after the tapped in to yahoo! and google communications which are used by hundreds of millions of people.nd google...
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this is something the white house and nsa deny. "wall street journal" reports the president was only made aware of this last summer. conflicting at this point. neither answers is satisfying because either he didn't have enough oversight or he hasn't been entirely forthcoming. demands for more information. some of these things are so sensitive, he can't go into full detail. >> there's a review under way right now. we expect other potentially controversial details to emerge. >> no question. they a real worry now particularly for relationships sensitive intelligence sharing relationships with the u.s. we share intelligence with the germans, french and so on. these relationships in south asia, in the middle east, more difficult countries for which a revelation they're cooperating on a country like iran could be damaging for them and u.s. relationships with them. >> in germany, this is especially sensitive because of east germany and the way it was ruled during the communist era. this is such a sensitive issue for the chancellor angela
this is something the white house and nsa deny. "wall street journal" reports the president was only made aware of this last summer. conflicting at this point. neither answers is satisfying because either he didn't have enough oversight or he hasn't been entirely forthcoming. demands for more information. some of these things are so sensitive, he can't go into full detail. >> there's a review under way right now. we expect other potentially controversial details to emerge....
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it is confirmed that the nsa had been monitoring leaders from 35 nations and the president was not aware of it until this summer. fusion's white house correspondent and tim abala caught up with the president to ask some questions on a tough day. >> you have to suspect that president obama would have preferred to cancel his interview today. in any presidency there are days of hope and promise. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> and days of triumph. >> the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda. >> and then there are days like today. headlines about out of control spying. >> the white house under fire right now given all of these revelations. >> and now sources confirm it was happening apparently without the president's knowledge. and then there is obama care, the website in disarray and the other legacy program, immigration reform, now stalled in partisan politics. this was probably not the day president obama would have chosen to speak one-on-one with abc's new partner, fusion. >> good to see ya. >> good to see y
it is confirmed that the nsa had been monitoring leaders from 35 nations and the president was not aware of it until this summer. fusion's white house correspondent and tim abala caught up with the president to ask some questions on a tough day. >> you have to suspect that president obama would have preferred to cancel his interview today. in any presidency there are days of hope and promise. >> so help me god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> and days of triumph....
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is he explaining his position on the nsa and his spying policy directive to the nsa? did he do enough yesterday? >> probably not. in the sense that he would not even publicly concede that the german chancellor's phone, some of those conversations were monitored. the president has a tough one. this is top-secret classified intelligence programs, the specifics of it and the practice of it. the president will have to do a couple things. at administration will have to answer the tough questions from congress and in doing so, hopefully answer questions from the american people. i suspect secretary kerry and the president himself, diplomacy with these allied leaders. a lot of close friends are peeved and say this will affect relationships down the road. >> senator lindsey graham says he'll stahl all nominations until he gets more information on the attack in benghazi. it's been more than a year. what's lindsey graham trying to do here? >> is he trying to help his colleagues in the house. because the democrats control the senate. so there's not a serious benghazi investigati
is he explaining his position on the nsa and his spying policy directive to the nsa? did he do enough yesterday? >> probably not. in the sense that he would not even publicly concede that the german chancellor's phone, some of those conversations were monitored. the president has a tough one. this is top-secret classified intelligence programs, the specifics of it and the practice of it. the president will have to do a couple things. at administration will have to answer the tough...
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magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively trying to quash the story, manage it, when you have leaks every day, something different. they need a better strategy to kind of get in front of this, i think, be more transparent because these leaks are coming. >> hard to protect the system of intelligence gathering when that's happening, the drip, drip. >> good to see you in person. >> come down more. >> come back. >> i will. >> imagine what they're saying on the phone with the pope? i'd like to be in on those calls. >> i don't know i'd want to know. >> edward snowden, former government contractor wh
magazine claims the nsa targeted the vatican are not true. look at the statements, that's a carefully worded statement. the question is, did the nsa target some specific individual in the vatican like the pope which this magazine claimed or did some other agency was looking at this type of thing? it's a carefully worded statement. that does not say that the u.s. is not spying on the vatican. so i think this is part of the problem that the administration is having, getting in front, pro actively...
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the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not letting the country going into default. >> oh, h -- >> come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i don't think they should. >> does it raise the broader question, though, charges charles, that the president is out of touch? >> that's what i was trying to get at. i don't get that sense but it's something that could be embarrassing, your underlings have to make sure that you understand things are happening and you're in the loop. that is a problem in these particular cases. there's no getting around that. it's an embarrassment. it happened at about the same time. that means that people will make connections even if they are not logical connections to make. i don't necessari
the nsa thing has been happening over a very long period of time. the website issues happen over a much shorter period of time when they were rolling it out, the government was shut down. the president was distracted by the idea of trying not letting the country going into default. >> oh, h -- >> come on, ross. but they are separate things but you are right you take your lumps. they do happen at the same time and people will make -- draw a straight line between the two even if i...
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>> scott, it seems nsa is getting far more aggressive than it's been in pushing back of these stories based on the leaks, specifically nsa key keith alexander denied the "washington post" report which claimed that the u.s. government is using some kind of secret back door or back doors to routinely scoop up millions of communication records from users of yahoo! and google. alexander made point of saying that nsa does get information from those internet search companies but only through court orders. >> pelley: thank you, bob. >>> in egypt, a top leader of the muslim brotherhood was arrested today by the military government, it's part of the crackdown on brotherhood which advocates a strict islamic government. he went in to hiding when the military ousted president muhammad morsi. sips then islamic militants have stepped up attacks on christians and clarissa regard is in cairo with that. >> in a packed church in a poor cairo neighborhood, the mourners grieve for their dead. five christians mowed down by mass gunmen has they arrived for a wedding. he lost two of his grand daughters in t
>> scott, it seems nsa is getting far more aggressive than it's been in pushing back of these stories based on the leaks, specifically nsa key keith alexander denied the "washington post" report which claimed that the u.s. government is using some kind of secret back door or back doors to routinely scoop up millions of communication records from users of yahoo! and google. alexander made point of saying that nsa does get information from those internet search companies but only...
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curbing the nsa, putting the brakes on that mass itch data collection system. >>> counting down to the winter olympics. sochi trying to get ready. >>> the head of the agency in charge of putting together president obama's health care law with the affordable health care website. >> i want to apologize to you that the website hasn't worked as well as it could. we know you need affordable coverage. we assure you that the website will be fixed. >> she had cmk the centers for medicare and medicaid services, the congress people continue to grill her, tavener says the issues should be fixed at the end of november. she is the first person to testify about the website and let's listen in. >> i'm not asking for incomes verification. if a person signs up were they offered credible employer insurance? because that's been delayed, you have to come up with a new verification tool to determine their eligibility for suns dis. if a person meets the qualifications they can't get credible insurance. >> that's correct sphwhrp if a a -- if a person is twif years old, they can get that subsidy but if they'r
curbing the nsa, putting the brakes on that mass itch data collection system. >>> counting down to the winter olympics. sochi trying to get ready. >>> the head of the agency in charge of putting together president obama's health care law with the affordable health care website. >> i want to apologize to you that the website hasn't worked as well as it could. we know you need affordable coverage. we assure you that the website will be fixed. >> she had cmk the...
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>> the nsa uses different techniques. one of the main techniques that it uses as to her spiegel reported is through a consulate in berlin, the nsa since people who pretend to be the elements are there to engage in mass surveillance on the german population as well as target the individual cell phone calls a such ast politicians the chancellor. we did a similar report in of theon the targeting president, the same as happened in mexico were but the current and former mexican presidents were targeted with similar forms of surveillance. this is often done through the way people pretend to be diplomats stationed there for what pretends to be a consulate but really is and nsa outpost. inexploits its positioning the nation capital under diplomatic treaties to target the population and a leading democratically elected leaders with very invasive surveillance. itself, thesy placement, this massive embassy building the u.s. moved into in 2008? >> right. the der spiegel report is using a document that demonstrates that embassy is ess
>> the nsa uses different techniques. one of the main techniques that it uses as to her spiegel reported is through a consulate in berlin, the nsa since people who pretend to be the elements are there to engage in mass surveillance on the german population as well as target the individual cell phone calls a such ast politicians the chancellor. we did a similar report in of theon the targeting president, the same as happened in mexico were but the current and former mexican presidents were...
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about what nsa does with america's communication. and president obama has repeatedly mislead the public by claiming that the nsa does not invade the content of our communications when in fact without warrants the nsa is frequently monitoring the communication of american citizens. >> not everyone sees it this way. joining me now from los angeles, fox news contributor, rick grenell the former spokesman to the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. rick, thanks for joining us. i interviewed glen greenwald. the reason we brought him on cashing in which i'm going to air it tomorrow morning on the fox news channel. the reason why i brought him on is because president obama promised the nsa was not going to look into private emails of americans. this week the "the washington post" reports that that likely happened when the nsa infiltrated google and yahoo and allowed them to have access to email accounts. now, the question is, do you think that's right? is that fair? should he be looking at americans' emails? >> well, i think the policy is that they
about what nsa does with america's communication. and president obama has repeatedly mislead the public by claiming that the nsa does not invade the content of our communications when in fact without warrants the nsa is frequently monitoring the communication of american citizens. >> not everyone sees it this way. joining me now from los angeles, fox news contributor, rick grenell the former spokesman to the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. rick, thanks for joining us. i interviewed glen...
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thisld like to call about nsa spying. and i think erin assay has just gotten completely out of control . the other day, you had that mike connolly on there, republican from texas. i tried to call in to c-span. i got through on the line and they were filtering calls. they asked me what my comment was and i said i just wanted to complain about the spying and the girl says i am just hanging out then hung up on me. i would like some kind of expedition about that. that don't sound right for c- span. have they taken control of speech -- a c-span, too? what was your comment about? caller: i just wanted to register my complaint about it. host: what was your complaint about overall? caller: that this is a terrible thing. we have had our freedom taken away from us. we have no privacy whatsoever. if they want your phone calls, they get it. if they want your e-mails, they get it. whatever they want. not just here, all around the world. host: did you have concerns about the recent stories about monitoring activities? caller: yes. they
thisld like to call about nsa spying. and i think erin assay has just gotten completely out of control . the other day, you had that mike connolly on there, republican from texas. i tried to call in to c-span. i got through on the line and they were filtering calls. they asked me what my comment was and i said i just wanted to complain about the spying and the girl says i am just hanging out then hung up on me. i would like some kind of expedition about that. that don't sound right for c- span....
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we begin with the latest in the nsa controversy. ambassador to spain, james costas it was called after reports of 60 medical spanish phone calls. >> the european union met behind closed doors. german parliamentians would like to know why they tapped chancellor angela merkel's phone calls. >> we are not considering our chancellor as a terrorist. therefore, i would say they have to think about or to reconsider what they really are interested. >> many americans fear their privacy may have been come promised. >> i am outraged like most people here, you know, at the mass surveillance that's going on. and people just don't seem to be upset about it. it's blatantly unconstitutional. >> we need to tell congress they need to act. we need to demand it. >> the crowd heard jess lin radack from the governmentt. it included this pointed message. >> we are here to remind our government officials that they are public servants, not private investigators. >> for more, i am joined from washington, d.c. by jesselyn y radack from the government accounta
we begin with the latest in the nsa controversy. ambassador to spain, james costas it was called after reports of 60 medical spanish phone calls. >> the european union met behind closed doors. german parliamentians would like to know why they tapped chancellor angela merkel's phone calls. >> we are not considering our chancellor as a terrorist. therefore, i would say they have to think about or to reconsider what they really are interested. >> many americans fear their privacy...
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host: how do you know that your phone is tapped the nsa e caller: -- nsa? the nsait came out that was tapping phones, and the day behind, it said tuesday but my said monday. host: would someone know that the nsa is doing this? guest: no, they do not do that without a warrant and those phone taps would be done by the fbi, local police, state police and others. i do not know how that would indicate that the nsa is doing it because the data is collected away from the phone itself, it is collected as a process. not directly off the phone. i am not sure about the proof or why his phone would be one day off like that, but i cannot imagine that it has anything to do with the nsa. the data center being used in utah to collect this information, they are having power outages and issues with having enough power to operate. have you been briefed on that? what is being done about it yeah -- what is being done about it yeah co --? contractors will have to get that fixed to make sure the site is up and ready to go when it is time to go. it has got to be consistent and rel
host: how do you know that your phone is tapped the nsa e caller: -- nsa? the nsait came out that was tapping phones, and the day behind, it said tuesday but my said monday. host: would someone know that the nsa is doing this? guest: no, they do not do that without a warrant and those phone taps would be done by the fbi, local police, state police and others. i do not know how that would indicate that the nsa is doing it because the data is collected away from the phone itself, it is collected...
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the nsa program keeps them for five years. so the likelihood without the 215 program would be that much of the information would simply not be there. so there would be no dots to connect. >> is it speeded may i have something on that? >> sure. >> it's my understanding that -- i'm not an sec lawyer by any means but the fcc regulation relates to pull billing records but it's not that alter to me thathat if all providers move ta system where they're no longer -- that doesn't include local calls. second, if provided with an environment where the, none of them are building for toll calls, whether those records would be putting even pursuant to the fcc regulation. >> thank you. you just answered my next question. that's good. relatedly, we heard some talk about sort of a competition downward in terms of requirements where it's not required by fcc regulation that providers for sort of commercial competitive reasons would decrease their own records retention periods. have you seen any evidence of that actually happening, or is that mo
the nsa program keeps them for five years. so the likelihood without the 215 program would be that much of the information would simply not be there. so there would be no dots to connect. >> is it speeded may i have something on that? >> sure. >> it's my understanding that -- i'm not an sec lawyer by any means but the fcc regulation relates to pull billing records but it's not that alter to me thathat if all providers move ta system where they're no longer -- that doesn't...